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Fetterman Rebukes Carville: "You Don't Change the Rules If You Didn't Win" — Opposes Court‑Packing and Major Rule Changes

Sen. John Fetterman publicly rejected James Carville's calls to expand the Supreme Court, add two states, and eliminate the filibuster, arguing Democrats should focus on winning elections rather than changing rules while out of power. He reiterated that he "strongly" opposes court‑packing and similar structural reforms. Fetterman also said he would support a Senate resolution condemning socialism, citing conversations with refugees who described it as a disaster. His comments followed a White House meeting with Zohran Mamdani and come amid Fetterman's increased television appearances after a recent fall.

02:16 AM, 11/23/2025Politics

Senator John Fetterman (D‑Pa.) firmly rejected proposals from veteran Democratic strategist James Carville to expand the Supreme Court, add two states to the Union, and eliminate the legislative filibuster during an appearance on America with Kayleigh McEnany on Fox News.

Host Kayleigh McEnany played a clip of Carville's November 15 interview in which he argued that expanding the Supreme Court to 13 justices would "cure" perceived problems with the institution. After the clip aired, Fetterman pushed back, saying such measures sound like the rhetoric of a party that has lost power.

"When I ran for the Senate back in '21‑'22, I rejected those things. I strongly rejected trying to pack the Supreme Court or to change those things. You know, we were — the Democrats — it’s like, you know, you don’t change the rules if you didn’t win. It’s like, win more elections, and then you are able to change those dynamics the way it was designed to be in the Constitution right now. So I strongly reject that."

Fetterman later addressed a House measure that denounces the "horrors of socialism," saying he would sign a similar resolution if it reached the Senate. He noted that many people he has spoken with who fled socialist countries described those experiences as disastrous and told him they "100%" disliked living under those systems.

His remarks came a day after President Donald Trump hosted Zohran Mamdani — described in broadcast segments as a democratic socialist and a rising New York City politician — at the White House. Fetterman, who still bore visible scrapes on his face from a recent fall that required medical attention, has appeared more frequently on television in recent weeks and recently remarked that "no one really knows" who is leading the Democratic Party at the moment.

Video of the interview was broadcast on Fox News.

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